Mr. Menzies, I may well have said it was dead at a breakfast, but it's like a cat--it keeps coming back.
We've got Mr. Lamy around here. He has brought his dog-and-pony show to Ottawa or Kanata, or wherever he is this afternoon. He's trying to get people interested in it again, and he's a very energetic guy. He's a very bright guy. Everybody wants to be in because they really should be in.
You have to differentiate between the WTO as an organization and this round, which has run into problems. There are an awful lot of problems. They're hard to overcome.
What can Canada do? Canada can stick to the line, keep pushing, be there with ideas. Our people are working, they're lobbying, they're trying to get things moving. We have influence. Maybe we should be trying to spread it a little bit further and see if we can help, but we're not going to be the people who drive it. Those people are in Washington and Brussels right now.