—but I would also note that, as I said earlier, as part of this process we have managed to negotiate the longest tariff phase-out for industrial products in history, up to 15 years. Whether or not all of these subsidy effects will be washed out over a period of time, it's impossible to know whether any of these subsidies are necessarily ending up in ships linked to our particular market. In any event, if you couple the up to 15 years plus the 10 years of negotiation itself, plus the year or so of the parliamentary process to get the agreement up and running, you are looking at more than 25 years of protection.
Will all the benefits of this limited number of subsidies be washed out, in the event that they happen to be associated with us? I can't say that every last component of them will be, but I think by this point it would be fairly minimal. That would be my view.