Thank you very much, Chair. I appreciate that.
I would like to thank both the witnesses. It's nice to see some familiar faces back at committee.
I want to say, Cyndee, that your presentation is a bit technical, so I'm going to try to follow along. I know you mentioned a few areas. But my specific concern--and I mentioned this to departmental officials whom we met with on Monday as well--is with respect to sensitivities around shipbuilding. With this particular free trade agreement, CEFTA, there's been a lot of concern raised within the shipbuilding sector. The primary concern most of them have is with Norway and the fact that they have heavily subsidized their shipbuilding sector; up until 2005, until they declared that was no longer the case, that's allowed them to gain a competitive advantage.
In the department, they go through some of the areas where the subsidies were received. They try to downplay, in my opinion, the degree of the subsidies that were received in Norway. I think those subsidies did give the Norway shipbuilding industry a competitive advantage.
I know you alluded to, except for Australia and the United States, an 18-year phase-out of tariffs. I forget what sector that was, Cyndee.