I think that's fair—though, of course, their sectors are much more firmly supported than ours are. So in a sense, it's reciprocal, but at different levels. It's an unbalanced playing field, in the sense that Canada's agricultural sector has already been really hard hit by the last 20 years.
I'd like to move on to shipbuilding. You did raise concerns about the length of time for the tariff transition or elimination. The Norwegian shipbuilding industry is much larger than Canada's, and it has been supported by public funds. Its value in 2007, the last year we have information for, was $17.4 billion in total production. They employ 38,000 workers. Canada's shipbuilding industry is much smaller. In the last figures we have, it was $525 million in production in 2005. It employed 3,500 workers. Their sector in terms of production is 34 times bigger.
How do we make sure that our shipbuilding industry, a vital strategic industry, continues if we're eliminating the tariffs and we have a Norwegian industry that is supported by good public investments and is monstrously larger than our own shipbuilding sector?