I appreciate that. I think it was helpful to the committee to get that. We have a series of these that we're going to talk about, and that answer will be helpful in the discussion of a number of them. So thank you for that.
With that, we're going to conclude the examination of the witnesses. I do appreciate your coming. That was very helpful.
Again, Mr. Haynal, thank you for coming back and offering your advice. Ms. Cherniak, thank you for taking the time today to join us. I appreciate your coming. Thank you again.
I'm now going to ask the committee if we might move in camera to discuss future business.