Yes, and that's another good point. Thank you, Mr. Dhaliwal.
We will have to conclude the meeting at 5:15 because we have votes tonight in the other building. We have some outstanding business from the previous meeting on future business, so I suggest we conclude this session at five o'clock, allow our witnesses to leave us, and go in camera for 15 minutes to deal with future business.
I'm ready to proceed, with the consent of the committee.
I would like to introduce, from the Shipbuilding Association of Canada, independent consultant and member of the board of directors, Mr. Andrew McArthur.
From the Canadian Auto Workers' Shipbuilding, Waterways and Marine Workers Council, we have Karl Risser Jr., who is the president of Halifax Local 1; and the business agent, Jamie Vaslet, who is here with us today.
Via video conference, from the National Farmers Union in Saskatoon, we have the executive secretary, Terry Pugh.
Can you hear me well?