What fine is appropriate? I don't know the answer to that, but it has to be painful, it has to be real, and it has to be significant.
The third thing I would say is this. Of course you heard evidence of continuing violence against trade union leaders. I think that is deplorable. But did you invest an equal amount of time to the seven-times larger factor of Colombians who were being murdered? I'd be interested to know that. The issue of violence in Colombia is not only an issue for trade union leaders, it's an issue for all Colombians, poor, rich, whatever, who are subjected to violence and murder of the kind that we have seen.
All I can tell you is that The Economist has said there's been a dramatic decline in the murder of trade unionists, so obviously the government of Chile has to be doing--