Just as an example, as we said, in 2004-05, when they came in, basically they probably sold about 4,000 to 5,000 tonnes in Canada. The other thing is that they marketed probably 150,000 tonnes in western Canada, so we had to match prices in many instances in order to retain our market share and retain our market.
It's not the volume at times that they are selling; it's the offers they made to our customers, and we had to match them. That's why it costs us millions of dollars in order to protect our marketplace.