Thank you, Chair.
Our committee has really been looking at two key aspects of how to deal with this free trade agreement. One is the issue of engagement: do we use this free trade agreement as a means to engage with them, to help address not only issues of economic prosperity for both countries but obviously human rights issues? The other view is that there have to be preconditions. That has been expressed very clearly. Some of you have been very forthcoming about your views on that.
I wanted to get your view on that, Gilles Pagé from Peace Brigades International. You've seen firsthand on the ground the situation in parts where we, unfortunately, were not allowed to travel because of security issues. You've been in the rural parts.
Can you speak to those two schools of thought? Which one, in your opinion, would be applicable in our pursuit of a free trade agreement with Colombia?