I don't know, but I can tell you that they won't change without motivation. Signing agreements with them while they are behaving the way they are now will not change them at all. It only reinforces them in their way of acting. I think we have to show more leadership than that. If countries want to trade with us, fine. But we have to make sure that both countries have the same respect for law and benefit from the same rules of trade.
Our membership does not believe that the trading arrangements we've negotiated to date have benefited them. And most Canadians feel the same way. In fact, StatsCan records suggest that we were right, that most Canadians, especially the ones we represent, have actually lost ground in standard of living during the last 25 years. Many Canadians on the lower end of the pay scale have lost over 20% of their economic vitality in the post-free trade era. That's not much of a validation of the benefits of trade or the way we negotiate it.