I'll just consult with the clerk for a moment.
Mr. Pallister and others, for clarity, then, the reason the original proposal—whether it was an amendment or a motion by Mr. Bains—was out of order in that case and could not be accepted as an amendment is because in addition he had suggested it as an amendment by deleting all the other words of the motion. That was why it was out of order, because it was so changing the original motion as to be out of order.
Mr. Julian is not changing the previous motion, as I take it. He is simply adding an additional point to it. So that is the reason why.
Okay, we have a speaker.