I'm sorry, Mr. Julian, I think we've gone over time with that one.
I'm going to say thank you for your questions and thank you to our witnesses. It was very useful, and I think the committee was very pleased with the presentations and the questions, so thank you very much. With that, I'm going to dismiss the witnesses with thanks.
I want to remind the committee that on Thursday I will be bringing to the committee a budget for travel to Washington. There will have to be discussion about that. Apparently there are two other committees visiting at the same time, and that may be one.... So I want you to bring your thoughts to the committee for Thursday with regard to the Washington trip.