Nor do I favour the abandonment of NAFTA. I'm simply saying that if you keep looking for solutions in NAFTA, you're not going to find them. I'm saying that you need to be looking at something with more imagination and doing something new.
Your industry is hurting not just because you can't penetrate the U.S. market or because of the limitations that have been imposed by the softwood lumber agreement, but also because of this excuse that anything you might do to help your industry violates the softwood lumber agreement. You've let that act as both shield and sword, and that shield and sword, it seems to me, is destroying your industry—not just the lumber industry but your whole forest industry. So using this as shield and sword is a madness.