I'll just echo; thank you for being here today.
Mr. Cannan and I represent large wine regions, and I know one of the things we did a few years ago was to drop the excise tax. Obviously that was challenged at the time through the WTO.
As we go back to these negotiations with the WTO and try to prove out unfair subsidies, the challenge is always what is a subsidy and what isn't a subsidy, which I'm sure you gentlemen have to deal with all the time.
Obviously they have great access to our markets in terms of foreign wines, European wines and Australian wines, and because of the monopolies that exist at the provincial levels, it makes it tough for our Canadian wines to be in there.
Are there ways for us to be able to try to challenge these things, these subsidies? Just because the WTO deems it not a subsidy doesn't actually mean that's the case in terms of what's happening, because they get around these things. My concern is, in the future, as we challenge some of these things, will we always have these issues?