With regard to the 40% or 50% capacity, yes, I still believe EFTA is a bad deal for Canada. I think it will destroy our industry. I do believe it should be amended to carve out shipbuilding.
As I said, it should be obvious to everyone that Canada is a marine nation. I think it's the only marine nation that in the last 50 years hasn't put a policy in place like this. I really don't understand why we don't see that. I think it's because it's on the water. I think the people of Canada don't see it. If we regulated our highways the way we regulated the inland seaway, the St. Lawrence, people would go crazy, because there'd be no one regulating anything. You just run on with your 80-year-old car, the tires falling off, and you just keep driving.
I think it's something that's hidden. People don't actually see and don't actually know what's going on in our industry in Canada.
On the Jones Act, when we went into negotiations on the U.S. deal, when they brought the Jones Act forward for the U.S. and Chile, we should have said, “You know what? That makes a lot of sense, so let's do the same thing here in Canada.”