It's unusual to hear that sugar in this country would have been a huge trade irritant between us and the United States. It's actually sugar that's the trade irritant in the agricultural sector, albeit not downplaying all of the other pieces. In a sense, you're not able to export. The others have been able to export and then have found some things happen. I find that a strange piece.
You talked about the jobs in the west. What numbers would we be looking at if you were to lose both plants in the west?