Okay. Let's assume you haven't taken a position.
If that's the case, that's unfortunate, of course, in terms of Canadian values, because those Canadians who shop at many of the stores that are part of your association are Canadians who believe profoundly in those Canadian values.
You have disagreement from every independent and impartial human rights organization, and this week there is a report out from the Colombian Commission of Jurists that analyzes cases of torture by the military arm of the Uribe regime. I'll just read a couple of paragraphs before I ask you a question on that.
Isabelle Heyer, who's a member of that commission, said,Torture continues to be generalized and systematic in Colombia. It is perpetrated by the Public Force, by the paramilitaries and by the guerrillas, but the party principally responsible for these acts is the state.
She said half of the 2003-08 cases can be blamed on security forces, while another 42% are attributable to the right-wing militias. This is the last five years, an 80% rise in torture.
Madam Heyer said sexual violence against women and girls is one of the most pervasive modes of torture, calling itan habitual, systematic and invisible practice, which enjoys impunity in the majority of cases and whose principal perpetrators are soldiers and police.
So there is strong disagreement from independent and impartial human rights organizations.
Do you find acceptable an 80% rise in torture from the Colombian military? This is the military arm of the government, controlled by the government. Do you find that acceptable?