Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I do want to thank Mr. Stewart-Patterson for mentioning the wine example. Ron and I represent probably half the wine industry in Canada, and certainly the sky was also falling in the 1980s. There were some concerns about whether we could compete globally. I think we need to remind ourselves that as Canadians, given the opportunity and a level playing field, by all means we'll compete with the best in the world, regardless of who that is. I think we looked at replant programs. We looked at trying to deal with some of the issues in the industry, and I would say that our wines are certainly up there in terms of quality. Our biggest challenges are not international. They're actually across borders between provinces. So it's kind of funny. We have a harder time moving product across Canada than we do selling internationally.
I say that in context, because I believe the government has been listening, and I believe when I talked to one of the witnesses from one of the shipbuilding unions we had in last time, he said he was optimistic. The proof will be in the pudding. We'll wait to see what happens, but we liked the measures of procurement, and we liked the measures of CCA, which my NDP friend agrees with as well.
So while it may not be perfect, I think we're heading in the right direction, and that's one of the thoughts that I think we need to continue to mention. While maybe we couldn't have competed 10 years or 15 years ago, this is a chance to get our A game on and move forward. I believe our ship industry is able to compete with the best in the world.
Just in the context of that, do you know how much shipbuilding actually represents in terms of a percentage of the deal? Do we have any context for that? I'm thinking we're not selling too many boats to Switzerland and Liechtenstein, not to diminish it at all. Do we know what kind of percentage this may represent for a free trade agreement?