I agree with Andrew. It's the engineers from the top level all the way down to the bottom. It doesn't matter what level you look at in the shipbuilding industry, as far as it goes, with technical skills that people are going to pick up.
On the repair side, you cannot get that. You need the new construction in order to hone those skills and to draw the people into the industry. What would happen over a very short period of time is that...with these new people coming in, the industry is getting very old. The average age used to be around 47, and I believe it's a little higher than that now.
We've seen it on the west coast in recent years, probably last year, with the construction of a mid-sized ferry for BC Ferries. The difficulty they had in putting that project together was horrendous. It was horrendous because there was virtually no new construction happening on the west coast for a large number of years and a lot of those skills had walked away. You're trying to ramp up to do one job and it's virtually impossible.
You really need an ongoing correlation of work and new construction to keep those people in the industry and to keep them going. Also, it brings in your apprentices and trains your workforce.