Mr. Laforest was completely in order, as you know, Mr. Chair. This is the fundamental heart of this issue. We have in Colombia what has been described as the worst situation for organized labour for free and collective bargaining on the entire planet. We have seen the killings on a regular and ongoing basis of unionized workers, labour representatives. As a result of all of this, what we have seen is a driving down of collective bargaining. More trade unionists are killed in Colombia than anywhere else on earth, Mr. Chair.
I'm sure all members of the committee, if they don't understand that at least at this point, they certainly haven't been listening to witnesses, the few witnesses we've had, before this committee, or a certain two parties around this table, invoked closure and tried to shut down all of the trade unionists and labour representatives who wanted to come forward.
The right to collective bargaining is pretty fundamental. Mr. Laforest and Monsieur Guimond have spoken very eloquently about that issue. And this is really the heart of whether or not we have members around this table who understand the dynamics in Colombia and understand that one of the fundamental problems is that the right to collective bargaining does not exist.