International Trade Committee on June 1st, 2010

Evidence of meeting #20 for International Trade in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-2, An Act to implement the Free Trade Agreement between Canada and the Republic of Colombia, the Agreement on the Environment between Canada and the Republic of Colombia and the Agreement on Labour Cooperation between Canada and the Republic of Colombia

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Matthew Kronby Director General, Trade Law Bureau, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Pierre P. Bouchard Director, Bilateral and Regional Labour Affairs, Department of Human Resources and Skills Development

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Well, then, I'll wait until I hear your next few words.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I am speaking to the testimony that this committee heard. Every single labour representative disagreed--

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An hon. member

Not true--

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

--with any interpretation of the labour side agreement as being--

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An hon. member

Point of order.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

[Inaudible--Editor]...from Canada and every--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I have a point of order here. I have Mr. Cannis and then....

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

--single--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

On a point of order, Mr. Cannis.

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chairman--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Mr. Julian, when I call a point of order, please zip it.

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Liberal

John Cannis Liberal Scarborough Centre, ON

Mr. Chairman, thank you, sir.

I apologize.

We're prepared to hear, but I personally, sir, am not prepared to sit here and listen to inaccurate statements. I'll be polite; I don't like to use the word “lies” because it's not parliamentary, but these are inaccurate statements.

Please....

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Mr. Keddy, you had a point of order as well.

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Conservative

Gerald Keddy Conservative South Shore—St. Margaret's, NS

I totally agree with Mr. Cannis' intervention. The reality is that we heard from a number of union leaders. We heard from a number of union members, not only at committee here, but in the last Parliament as well; we also heard from union members and union representatives when we had committee hearings in Colombia in the last Parliament. We've heard and heard and heard....

What we have here, Mr. Chairman, is strictly a delay in the parliamentary process because we have two parties in this House who cannot get what they want by any means other than obstruction and delay. They do not believe in democracy; they fundamentally are against it. It doesn't work for them. When they're outvoted on that issue, then we have a conflict--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Thank you. That's not a point of order.

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An hon. member

It's not a point of order.

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

It's very clear to me. I mean, I don't want to or like to end debate, especially if I think it's fruitful, but it is very clear what the outcome is from the people here. I am going to call the vote. All those in favour of the amendment?

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Are you asking for a recorded vote?

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, I'm saying--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

You're not asking for a recorded vote?

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

--you cannot call the previous question--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Are you calling for a recorded vote?

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NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I want to speak on the--

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Conservative

The Acting Chair Conservative Larry Miller

You're not? Okay. All those in favour of the amendment?