You're not. I'm really upset when I hear we're being charged a 14% tariff and we're charging 4% coming in. That's unacceptable. These are tools or arguments we could use.
With respect to the intellectual property rights, of course, that's a big concern worldwide today. I got from you, Mr. Geist, the message that we're failing miserably somewhere. I'd like you to give us some suggestions as to what can we do, how forceful can we be. When we look at the European Community, these 27 countries, they're looking at us as the golden fleece, I'll tell you. That was my sense. They know they've got a beautiful, growing market here in Canada. That's really where our strength lies, and sometimes we fail to understand our strength--32 million going to 33 million population.
We're moving forward on this trade deal, this agreement with the European Community and Canada. Would it be wiser if we acted as a bloc? They're acting as a bloc. If we were to deal on a unilateral basis with some of these countries, they've got less population than we have, they have more of a need for our products than we have of theirs, and then they're looking at us as a very lucrative market, whether it's toll highways...and the list goes on and on.
But I am concerned, and I'd like to get back to the profits of GIs. You talked about the cheeses, and we should be able to.... I know these guys are driving a very hard bargain when it comes to some of their products. I think the people who were with me in Rome confirmed that. So how do we work on that? Can you give us some suggestions? It didn't seem to us that they were prepared to take back one inch. That was the impression I think we all got. The parliamentary secretary was with me, and we took a very strong position on behalf of Canada, whether it be our oil sands or everything else, and they're just going to take every opportunity, no matter how much we are trying to address our responsibilities internationally.
I'm going to stop there to give you some time, but you can see where my concerns are.
And I want to get some more products into Europe as soon as possible, Mr. Clow.