The Europeans have their sensitive products too. Pork and beef are obviously sectors where very little access is granted to Canada or any other country.
I believe that one of the bases of any agreement—and Mr. Clow discussed this earlier—is that there will be a harmonization of tariffs, regardless of the access issue. Access has been discussed on the basis of tariff quotas. Let's say that we don't touch tariff quotas where there are any; there is indeed a kind of liberalization that can be done. In fact, the situation is the same for cheese: our tariffs are about 14% to 20% when we export as opposed to 4% when we import. So to say that we're going to take all that to zero isn't an argument we're advancing, even at the industry level. We did that in the context of NAFTA. What's important for us is that we don't touch the tariff quotas as such.