Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Richardson.
Thank you to our guests who are here, and thank you for your polarized opinions.
Mr. Sinclair, I'd like to start with you.
I'm no expert, but let's just say that as an alternative, since that is in the name of your centre, I thought it to be a much better state of circumstances if what happened was that you had a three-party conversation in which the federal government was involved with the provincial government as well as Abitibi to transfer money, yes, but at the same time to come up with an agreement to remediate the lands.
That property is incredibly dirty, we'll say. I grew up there. It's a 100-year-old mill; the environmental standards were never tightened until, say, the eighties, so that's a good 75 years without any real, tangible environmental standards.
I think what troubles the people there.... You've mentioned the pension issue, which is a major one, especially for the electrical workers who were transferred. There are also creditors involved who are getting somewhere in the vicinity of 10¢ to 20¢ on the dollar, and of course there are the other issues as well concerning money owed by Abitibi, but in this particular case I thought that what is egregious to them is that $130 million was paid and we're still seeing nothing done. We still have to spend that money to do that.
I'll let you answer that, and then I have a question for Mr. McMahon.