Okay. I just wanted to be clear on that.
Perhaps you and Mr. Beaulieu should chat about that, because I think sometimes in real-life scenarios, especially when there are opportunities that are.... I'll call them “ground zero” opportunities.
Again, Spirits Canada...which has such an incredible trickle effect through various of our grains and other sectors, and what it means to producers right across this country. It's actually very compelling.
Actually, often we ask you for information, but you should seek out, or we should give you, the information and testimony from Spirits Canada.
You know, Mr. Pomerleau, I heard you talk about where Canada is with India, and ask what our strategy is. Well, actually, I would submit to you that we have a strategy: in fact we call it a global commerce strategy.
What that means is that we tried to make sure we secured North America. We started 25 years ago with the United States, then expanded that to NAFTA. You can look at what we've done with Central and South America in terms of trying to ensure that we've done that. With CETA there's a population of 500 million people—huge opportunities for the pork industry as well, just since you happen to be here, sir.
Then you look at India, with 1.1 billion people. We're also dealing with Japan right now. We're dealing with countries, frankly, that have stability politically, which we think is important; that are areas where we have the opportunity to expand our markets—and not every market, but that's why we do these kinds of things; and that are geographic opportunities for us as well.
I look at the balance of trade between Canada and India. We started with some $400 million in 2005, and we've grown to $2.6 billion in 2011. I just look at those kinds of numbers...and that's without an agreement. Imagine what we could do with an agreement.
Mr. Pomerleau, would you think that if we were able to somehow challenge those norms, that if we had the circumstance where we could get rid of those subnational governments...cooperating, that this would matter to your industry? Do you not think that would be supportive to you?