We'd like to call the meeting back to order. We are entering into our second hour.
Just to inform the committee, we won't have any committee business at the end of this, so we can spend our time with the witnesses.
We have with us, from the Canadian Association of Mining Equipment and Services for Export, the real Jon Baird, I understand. That's good; this will be interesting, There will be lots of questions on that, I'm sure.
From the University of Ottawa, we have with us Carlo Dade, senior fellow from the School of International Development and Global Studies.
Thank you both for being here.
We will yield the floor to the real Jon Baird first.
Go ahead, please.