You can't be outside the tent. You just can't be outside the tent. It's not just a question of the tariffs, because in a lot of cases the tariffs are disappearing anyway. The tariffs are not as big an issue. It's the differential treatment. You're not going to be dealing.... For example, when you have these agreements, you usually have ministerial committees where you deal with problems. You have a different relationship.
On June 5th, 2013. See this statement in context.