I'm going to pick it up before we get into the last questioners and just ask you both this question that's gnawing at me.
You've both won awards for excellence in your respective areas. You seem rather young and you're competing with Europeans and people who have been in the industry for generations, for centuries. How did you get so good at it? Is it secret recipes that have come down over the ages? What's your secret to success on that side of it?