My sense is to repeat what I said before, that the terms under which these agreements have been negotiated are not ones that are favourable.
If you want to go back to the NAFTA issue, I would ask what major new social programs or public programs we have initiated since NAFTA. I think the answer is none. I don't see anything. If you look at the fifties and sixties and into the seventies, you see a whole plethora of new programs that benefited Canadians. We don't see anything. We just see the systematic erosion of our social safety net since NAFTA went into place. That's the reality.