Mr. John Winter at the International Trade Committee

I don't know what your expectations are. I think being at the table is better than not being at the table.

I suspect that an agreement with Korea or Japan is obviously a difficult thing to agree to. I can imagine some of the issues that are on the table that Canada has to deal with in that regard, so the fact that we're still talking, the fact that there is optimism that these agreements will be put in place, is an awfully good sign from our perspective.