Interestingly, this work that Canada Wood Group has been doing, which has been supported by the federal government and the provinces—and it's actually been supported since about 1999, so under different governments—has been pushing to try to create demand for value-added products in different nations, particularly in places like Japan and other places where people have considerable income.
That is a concrete example of something that's going on right now to try to develop demand and create value-added jobs here in Canada.