But when you say something drastic has to happen.... I guess you could look at it either as the actions having all failed or not having taken root, or as the challenges being so profound that it will take probably a decade or more to see progress from investments. I know that the Justice Education Society of British Columbia was particularly tasked on some of these justice initiatives.
It still sort of goes back to the approach of whether you view failure as a reason to stop this sort of engagement. Honduras is one of our countries of priority on a developmental index. What do you propose, then? If the initiatives we're working on don't seem to be taking root, and if Canada's potential leverage in a relationship with a country like that increases by more trade, do we not take advantage of that by continuing to push bilaterally through the Organization of American States?
I know there's no solution, but I think the difference in party view on this is that we believe more engagement, more direct diplomacy, and more reliance on trade, raising income levels within the country, even modestly, will lead to more progress than the alternative, but you're not suggesting an alternative.