You could look at an infrastructure project in, say, a market like Senegal, where private investors may look at an opportunity. There's clearly a growing population. There are clearly people who would be using these projects, but political risks or counterparty risks with local partners are such that a company, whether it's an investor like a pension plan or whether it's an engineering company, would not be able to take on those risks. The project would otherwise not happen. Right now, you have organization—
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