It's really a very complex topic for sure, and I'll try to be very quick.
In our particular case, as I mentioned, we were able to raise the first $40 million or $50 million in Canada. However, the sources that we got the money from were rather unusual. The Richardson family in Winnipeg helped start the company. There were also the hospitals of Ontario pension plan and the Fairfax insurance company.
These are not typical venture capital groups, but in our case we needed long-term thinkers, and in venture capital in Canada, it tends to be that they put a little bit of money into a lot of things. That keeps everybody at very high risk and thereby the returns tend to be relatively low. I've actually talked with BDC and have given them some thoughts on this as well: take some bigger bets, put money on fewer things, and make sure you see them through for 10 or 12 years and see them to success. In a nutshell, I think that's what I would say.