Okay.
As I said, the pillar of any young start-up company is cash and access to financing. I'm sitting here as the operations manager of Prairie Machine and Parts, whereas four months ago I was PapaBravo Innovations. We had to sell our company in order to expand. We couldn't access financing. This company had some financing there—they've been in business a long time—and we needed financing.
We tried the federal government, the provincial government, banks. We looked at some angel investors. Finally we just outright sold our company and our intellectual property so that we could expand. Ownership of the company came second to ensuring that the company was thriving and growing—growing the Canadian economy as well.
I would say that it's fairly difficult to get financing. It's been said a couple of times here that it's difficult to get through BDC. I can go to a traditional bank and get financing before I can go to BDC. There's something wrong if BDC is classifying me as high risk and a stand-alone bank is not.