We've seen an increase of about 7.1%. That outpaces the GDP, which is good. That means we're outpacing what one would normally think the market would be. I speak of the container trade. When we talk about the container trade, it is normally not what could be considered raw material, You don't put the logs in there. You put the cut lumber or some other type of medium in there.
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