I'm going to talk from my perspective. I have a company. We do international business development. We work a lot with the Canadian government doing trade missions to Brazil, so I've personally dealt with over 200 companies entering the market in Brazil. The big problem here is the tariffs in Brazil. Canada has considerably lower tariffs and barriers than Brazil does. Brazil is quite protectionist. Even when you look at different tariffs.... For example, on automobiles and parts, the current tariff is up to 35%, but really that 35% is about 100% when you add the other taxes, which are compounding, and then sort of a GST that we have, which is about 25%. Everything you're looking at in Brazil, even if it says here 18%, 14%, or 16%, or for pharmaceuticals 14%, is going to be more because it's a compounding tax. There's even tax on top of the shipping, so what he said is really true, because it comes in and it's not competitive.
The chamber believes that if we can not only cut down those tariffs but also negotiate with Brazil directly to help change the structure—and I have to say that Ambassador Rick Savone, and the Consuls General Evelyne Coulombe and Stéphane Larue, are doing an amazing job in the commercial part to try to change those things. A lot of the Brazilian imports here that we have now I don't think are competing. A lot of them go to the local market of Brazilians that they attend to, but I think it would be good. This treaty is much better for Canada than for Brazil, in my opinion, just because of how protectionist Brazil is right now.