Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your presentations today. The great thing about and the strength of a democracy is that we can all have our say and try to hammer out something that's better at the end of the day.
Ms. Azocar, on your concerns about buying, we've had those same concerns as a government for years, as did the Chrétien government before that and the Paul Martin government. Health care is a provincial issue, and they're very territorial. I haven't been privy to some of the meetings; I've been privy to some of the discussions with provinces like mine in Saskatchewan about why they won't entertain bulk buy. We all know, when you go to Costco, you get a better deal than if you buy one item, as an example, so why won't they entertain that? For some reason, their own little territories seem to be more important for them than saving a few dollars on bulk buying. I think that's the way to go in the end.
The same thing happens every time we talk about a national pharmacare program: we hit the wall. Every province says yes, but they want flexibility too. As soon as you have that, you don't have a national program.
Have you got a road map or an idea of how you can bring a confederation of provinces and territories to agree? The meeting has been going on for the 20 years that I've been involved in federal politics with really no outcome so you can say, “Eureka”. If you've got an idea, I'd be happy to hear it.