Those discussions are happening every day. Al Schutten and I sit and look at each other and wonder. We try to look at things that are possible and probable when we're trying to work out risk in business. We don't really have an idea of what is probable any more, but what is possible is actually quite frightening.
I don't know the actual answer regarding how long does it go. We have not done anything yet because that is the last decision we ever want to make, but when we ask the government for help, that actually is a plan. There is going to be money coming in from the tariffs. Tariffs are put in place to help industries that are dealing with either unfair trade or disadvantages, and we need some help. If we got that help, we could at least skate a little bit. We would be just breaking even. We don't have large margins in our business, probably 10% to 12% usually. You can see we're not asking for a handout; we are saying, “Keep us in the game.”
To your earlier point of how quickly we can lose customers, it is already happening. I have tremendous support from people in the U.S. who are now saying, “We'll catch up with you in a few months maybe and we'll talk again, but for now, we have to cover ourselves.” It's very frightening.