Thank you, Chair and witnesses. You only have five more minutes, so we're almost done.
Mr. Orb, you touched on this, that the taxpayer pays the bill. The taxpayer pays the medicare. The taxpayer pays the wages of Catherine.
Jennifer, it probably pays into your pension.
Terry, if you get any farm subsidies, they pay for the subsidies, correct? If the taxpayer doesn't have the revenue, which comes from the private sector and from taxpayers....
I'll use the example. Right now we have a $30-billion forecasted deficit, and we're doing that to basically improve our economy, grow our economy and jobs. How do you propose we grow our economy if we don't sign trade agreements, if we don't actually embrace the world, and actually go out there and find these markets so that our creative people in Canada can actually make an income, have a good quality of life, and pay those taxes so that you can have the things that we take for granted here in Canada?
If you don't want the TPP or any trade agreement, well, then what are all these farmers in Saskatchewan supposed to do, Terry? Are they supposed to just raise buffalo and watch them go off into the sunset? What do you propose? What would you suggest that government do if you don't do trade agreements? How else are you going to generate this economic activity?