To be honest about it, and it's probably hard to say this, but Mr. Trump said something that got everybody's attention. The dumping of steel, the saturation from countries that cheat and manipulate, don't have human rights, don't treat their workers the way that...has been ongoing for years. We've had that same situation here in Canada. If you look at the amount of steel that's been dumped over the years, you see that has diminished the amount of capacity that the companies that are playing by the rules have, because we've never had the ability to basically stop it. The same thing has happened in the U.S.
What the U.S. has done is they've gone ahead and applied these tariffs around the world. But don't punish your neighbour. Don't punish your best ally. Don't punish the integrated...of the market. There are decades and decades of history there.
The fact is if you look at aluminum, the prices of aluminum have dropped because of the oversaturation of China. A country that produces in excess of a billion tonnes and uses 700 million ain't gonna leave it in the boneyard.
What you have to have is Europe and the other countries come together and you have to deal. Don't reward bad behaviour. That's what's happening. The fact is it's coming at our expense. To have these tariffs imposed is an insult to Canadians. If you look at—