Yes, it did shrink, especially after BSE. The size of the herd shrunk in Manitoba but in the last year we're starting to see some increase in the herds again. You have good cattle prices or a good return on your investment, and people start to come back in.
I will say one thing that I've seen over probably the last year and a half. At the meetings that I go to and so forth, there is a far younger audience out there than there used to be. There are other initiatives, such as price insurance, that we've been able to obtain over the last number of years. That helps producers, especially younger guys. There's a way of getting in and there's quite a bit of optimism out there right now.