Evidence of meeting #132 for International Trade in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was companies.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Avvey Peters  Chief Strategy Officer, Communitech
Todd Stafford  President, Northern Cables Inc.
Shelley Bacon  Chief Executive Officer, Northern Cables Inc.
Carla Arsenault  President and Chief Executive Officer, Cape Breton Partnership
Philippe Noël  Director, Strategy and Economic Affairs, Fédération des chambres de commerce du Québec
Richard Hébert  Lac-Saint-Jean, Lib.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Sorry. Nice try, but we're going to move to another round.

Mr. Fonseca, you have the floor.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you to the witnesses.

I want to start with Northern Cables.

You're quite a success story. You could be a case study for manufacturing and being a successful manufacturer here in Canada. I think you said you started with five employees and you're up to 230 employees and that today, 50% of your revenue is coming from exports. Of that 50%, how much is U.S. and Mexico based and how much would be from other countries?

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

It's primarily all from the U.S. Right now, maybe 2% to 3% is from somewhere other than the U.S.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Is that through the supply chain, with some of the mining companies and others you work with?

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

It's specifically from mining. The mining industry is the single biggest opportunity we have for export.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

You're looking to grow that 2% to 3% and diversify outside of the North American market. Do you have a plan for that? I know you talked about going metric in terms of your product, but do you have a robust plan set up? Have you shared that and gotten into contact with the trade commissioner service's offices?

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

We're actually on the accelerated growth program. We've had the National Research Council, the Standards Council and the BDC come at us with a 40-page document. They will accompany us to trade shows and they will introduce us.... But we have a product that's in inches, so it's very pinpointed to the people in those countries that will accept a product in inches. We have to go back to first principles and get our product into measurements that those other countries accept, and then we can put in a full-court press. Our website is in Spanish already.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Great. Do you have a plan for that? Is that changing your machinery? What does that entail?

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

12:25 p.m.

Chief Executive Officer, Northern Cables Inc.

Shelley Bacon

We're not the bottleneck.

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

We're ready. We're making the product whether it's in inches or metric. We sell product in Canada in metres. It's really getting the standard, specifically for tech cable, that is a mining industry success story, getting that specification by CSA into metric sizes.

We don't need financing. We don't go to trade shows. We already sit on international boards. We just have a product that's kind of landlocked.

12:25 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Does it look promising?

12:25 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

It's very early. To get metric accepted is something we've probably only started in the last 12 months to really put a press on. It's quite a bureaucratic battle, and we had hoped that today we could maybe spread that and get a little bit of assistance with it.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Thank you, Mr. Stafford.

Thank you, Mr. Bacon.

My next question will be going to Ms. Peters. It will be about our fall economic statement.

There is quite an investment that is going to be made, $184 million over five years, to the trade services for exports. There was $13.5 million established for the mentorship programs that you've spoken to as well as $10 million over the next three years to enhance small to medium-sized firms' readiness for export capacity.

Did you get a chance to read the document to see how those would align with some of your needs? I think mentorship was one that you brought up.

12:30 p.m.

Chief Strategy Officer, Communitech

Avvey Peters

Yes, we read that with great interest.

I think part of what we have been able to do over the last eight or nine years is work really closely with the trade commissioner service so that we're vetting companies, small companies typically, making sure that they are ready for a hand-off to the trade commissioners in market and that they're ready to take advantage of the introductions, advice and those types of things.

The notion of more mentorship, more resources, and more ways to help companies go international is certainly very welcome. I know our regional partners are really interested to understand how we can make sure that we are getting companies properly ready.

I had the opportunity to talk to the lead of the Canadian tech accelerator program yesterday. We talked about what some the coaching opportunities are and if there is a pre-flight curriculum we could help develop and then deliver to the thousands of companies that we serve to streamline those requests.

I know the trade commissioners get inundated with requests for help, and we can, I think, help to manage some of that demand on their time and resources. What we'd really welcome is the opportunity to help roll out some of these new things.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Thank you.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

We're going to move over to the Conservatives now.

Mr. Hoback, you have the floor.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, witnesses, for being here.

Mr. Bacon and Mr. Stafford, you talked in your presentation about how you're seeing competition coming in from other countries. These countries are metric, but they're coming in and selling in both metric and English here in Canada. Is that what they're doing?

12:30 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

They only sell in English.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

But when they sell in their own country, it's always in metric.

12:30 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

It's in metric.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

So they're doing both. Are they running two different lines then?

12:30 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

No, it's in measurement. It's like doing metric conversion on your calculator. On the same machine you could make—

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

Then, for your products going to those countries, you just need to put the metric measurements on your label.

12:30 p.m.

President, Northern Cables Inc.

Todd Stafford

We need the standard to accept metric measurements and allow it.