A win for us is an agreement with the Americans that allows access for the lumber producers into the U.S.
Principally, I'd like to see something that recognizes the large producers, which essentially produce CLS or construction-grade material—a commodity—and I'd like to see the smaller guys, the independents who do not have tenure but who bid for wood on the open market, also have access into the States, in recognition that their business is different from that of the large guys and that they need some special consideration so that they can be successful. It's a very tough world for them.
A good part of our success is dependent on the small guy's success, because we end up purchasing our chips and hog material on the open market from the small guys as well. They need to survive.