I'm in Quebec City, but I feel very at home. We had manufacturers in the previous panel, and labour was also represented. I'm a 20-year union member, so I'm very pleased to see labour represented, and I welcome the members from the port who are here to present.
I think it's important to be reminded of the secretive nature of this deal, the way this deal was negotiated. I don't think Mr. Lebel is being completely transparent about who was and who wasn't in that room. Mr. Ritz, who sits on this committee, has told us many times that hundreds of industry people and lobbyists were included in those conversations. Missing were labour, aboriginal people, environmentalists, civil society, youth, and human rights groups. Many of the groups excluded from the negotiations could have contributed in a way that might have changed the conversation we're having today, and that's unfortunate.
I'd like to talk about some of the things that you brought up. With respect to ISDS, not only is there the ISDS provision whereby we can be sued, but there is also an effect. Madame Lévesque, you well highlighted the regulatory chill and gave us a great New Brunswick example of how that chill can impact communities, not only on the border but in all of Canada as well.
I'd like to ask Monsieur Bolduc if he could speak a little bit about the ratchet and standstill. It's something we haven't really dug into in this committee. You represent public sector workers, and this aspect of the agreement would definitely impact, for instance, our ability to have a pharmacare program in Canada. Could you speak about those two clauses?