We've sat through a number of these panels, and we've heard both sides of the equation, those who support the agreement and those who are against it. I think some themes are starting to emerge.
On the opposed side, it seems to be a three-pronged argument. The benefits are negligible; ISDS will fundamentally change Canada and the provinces' ability to regulate their own industry and their own jurisdictions; and this isn't really a trade deal at all, but a corporate framework.
On the other side, we see producers and manufacturers who see this as a way to tap into bigger markets and to be able to create jobs in their industries and their communities, which of course will benefit Canadians, if that's true.
It's hard to balance the two competing interests. I don't think there's a way to actually reconcile them. We have to decide who to give more weight to and who to believe, frankly, and who not to believe. It's sounds that crass, but that's kind of the analysis we need to do. The answer probably lies somewhere in between. I have no doubt about that.
Then we hear from the steelworkers. I think the issues that the steelworkers are bringing to the fore have more to do with the issues of the manufacturing sector in general, regardless of the TPP.
The TPP is why you're here today, Troy, and this is what we're talking about. I just wonder whether you've given any thought to what the federal government can do to support manufacturing generally and to help steelworkers in the country.