If I may respond to that, I'll give you a classic example. We're facing a major problem in Hamilton, which is my home town, in the steel industry. U.S. Steel basically wants to bankrupt the company down there, and people are being laid off. Retirees have had their pensions cut back. They've lost their indexing. The pension plan that was meant to be resolved years ago has not been. There's approximately a $1-billion shortfall in the pension, and they've now lost their benefits. Now you're talking about the cost to them. They have a choice: pay their rent, pay their mortgage, or pay for their medications. That's how bad it's getting for many of my members across the country where this situation is growing.
Most people think that pensions in the private sector, even in the public sector, are huge. They are not because we're losing the pension ability in the private sector. They're going to different forms, and this is putting more burden on people when they retire so that they rely on the CPP, which is kept, as you know, to a certain amount, and OAS and GIS. It just gets them over the poverty level. Therefore we can see that drug costs—this is why I'm here talking about this issue—is a major concern, especially for surviving spouses.