There are countries that refuse to sign agreements with ISDS mechanisms in them, including Brazil and South Africa. India also has an interesting view on investment. It is possible to be a trading nation and not necessarily sign ISDS. Obviously, if ISDS had reforms in the sense that human rights, environment, or labour standards were also enforceable, and you could actually sue, and there would actually be some teeth to them, then we wouldn't have a problem of a hierarchy of rights of investors over our domestic law. That's very important for us, because we really, truly, believe in the rule of law, whereby our laws and our constitution should have precedence rather than a narrow series of rights that are just for investors and that don't have the full body of legal mechanisms.
On June 7th, 2016. See this statement in context.