I just want to say very quickly that I don't dispute that the beef industry will gain new opportunities through tariff elimination in these key markets, but your job as parliamentarians is to look at the overall net benefit of this to Canada. That includes the many other issues that are separate from these fairly limited commercial opportunities that are going to be created by tariff elimination, which many people throughout these hearings have been raising.
This will be my last point. If you want to look at the impacts of this type of treaty, what the impacts of tariff liberalization will be under the TPP, I suggest that you look at our experience so far under the Canada-Korea FTA, where our deficit has increased, our manufacturing sector has suffered, and in the first six months of this year it's increasing again; and even in the case of beef, despite signing a free trade agreement, we were shut out for most of last year.