If I look at the big picture, I can't tell you today, but I'm trepidatious for sure because I'm losing market. If it's a good trade deal and if 10 years down the road we're showing economic growth, and if we are fortunate enough to gain access to those markets and can sell milk there to help mitigate the loss in production, then I'll be happy.
I can't answer that. We can do all kinds of studies and guess what kind of growth we'll have, but we don't know. As long as trade is fair, I think both countries can win, or all the countries in the TPP deal can win.
We have to make sure when we look at trade deals that we're all working under the same rules. I don't work under the same rules as a dairy farmer in New Zealand, for example, or a dairy farmer in the United States. Some of them are subsidized differently. We don't get any subsidies. We get our money from the marketplace. That's the way it should be done, but the world market gets screwed so badly because these farmers are subsidized. They dump milk on the world market and cause a glut, so the price drops.